Thanks for handlin' that, Little Toe.....I don't have the tact or patience with certain hecklers that you seem to have....you did it much more tastefully and graciously than I would have....
Frannie B
thanks to little toe's piquing my interest on this subject, i hafta ask it...... .
has anyone here had any personal spiritual experiences and is anyone here brave enough to describe/relate any personal spiritual experiences they've had, whether pre-borg, during being borganized or post-borg?
to be more specific, have you ever seen any angels or spirit creatures, been made aware of their presence in any way, interacted with or communicated with them, or had dream/visions...etc?
Thanks for handlin' that, Little Toe.....I don't have the tact or patience with certain hecklers that you seem to have....you did it much more tastefully and graciously than I would have....
Frannie B
i've often felt that the most objective person in a situation is the one who has no stake in the outcome.
this holds true to religious issues as well.
we all know freddie franz translated john 1:1 as "the word was [a] god" and the rest of the christian world flew through the roof.
John 1:1..."In the beginning.......the word was god..." Here's something to think about in relation to Jesus being quoted as saying "There is none good but one, that is God..." Also, along with these two scriptures, you can research the fact that Jesus is quoted as saying that he HAD to do this...(come as a sacrifice, etc...don't recall the exact words or scripture) ....IMHO, Jesus, being the word of God, God's offspring, in the beginning (Genesis means "beginning") inspired the scriptures to be written presenting his own activities as God's...ie: the word posed as God doing the creating, and his presence here on earth in person as Jesus to be sacrificed was a penalty for having usurped God's place in the scriptures.....
Frannie B (of the "Don't everyone jump on me at once" Class)
thanks to little toe's piquing my interest on this subject, i hafta ask it...... .
has anyone here had any personal spiritual experiences and is anyone here brave enough to describe/relate any personal spiritual experiences they've had, whether pre-borg, during being borganized or post-borg?
to be more specific, have you ever seen any angels or spirit creatures, been made aware of their presence in any way, interacted with or communicated with them, or had dream/visions...etc?
Thanks, Rocketman! I was tickled to find that avatar...just stay "tuned" for the posts on this subject....seems like it's gonna get pretty interesting, cher!
Frannie B
now that we have left the organization, how can we get everlasting life?
i have found the answer!.
http://www.liveforevernow.com.
LOL! I asked that guy to check back with me in 100 yrs....
Frannie B
thanks to little toe's piquing my interest on this subject, i hafta ask it...... .
has anyone here had any personal spiritual experiences and is anyone here brave enough to describe/relate any personal spiritual experiences they've had, whether pre-borg, during being borganized or post-borg?
to be more specific, have you ever seen any angels or spirit creatures, been made aware of their presence in any way, interacted with or communicated with them, or had dream/visions...etc?
YEEHAAAA, Sheila! Lookin' fwd to seein' 'em, cher!
Frannie B
thanks to little toe's piquing my interest on this subject, i hafta ask it...... .
has anyone here had any personal spiritual experiences and is anyone here brave enough to describe/relate any personal spiritual experiences they've had, whether pre-borg, during being borganized or post-borg?
to be more specific, have you ever seen any angels or spirit creatures, been made aware of their presence in any way, interacted with or communicated with them, or had dream/visions...etc?
HIGH 5's, Ravyn! My thoughts on that exactly....fear of spirit creatures is due to twisted doctrinal teachings.....although....Jacob was even alleged to have struggled with an angel, wasn't he....(rhetorical)
Frannie B
thanks to little toe's piquing my interest on this subject, i hafta ask it...... .
has anyone here had any personal spiritual experiences and is anyone here brave enough to describe/relate any personal spiritual experiences they've had, whether pre-borg, during being borganized or post-borg?
to be more specific, have you ever seen any angels or spirit creatures, been made aware of their presence in any way, interacted with or communicated with them, or had dream/visions...etc?
Breal, you appear to have very unique, individualized gifts for peering into spiritual realms....welcome to the weird gang.. Your experiences are very interesting...have you ever thought of exploring the limits of your "gifts"? I think we each (those of us favored with spiritual abilities) have personalized talents given us according to our personas....I'd love to hear some more of your experiences....and there're some good ones coming from others' posts under this topic...so stay "tuned"...
Frannie B
thanks to little toe's piquing my interest on this subject, i hafta ask it...... .
has anyone here had any personal spiritual experiences and is anyone here brave enough to describe/relate any personal spiritual experiences they've had, whether pre-borg, during being borganized or post-borg?
to be more specific, have you ever seen any angels or spirit creatures, been made aware of their presence in any way, interacted with or communicated with them, or had dream/visions...etc?
Excellent, Ravyn! I can't wait to hear everyone's experiences....I had a deja vu experience when I was less than 5 yrs. old....from an apartment my Mom brought us to when I was sleeping, so I didn't know where I was when I woke up, but I had dreamed during the night of being a young woman in the same city, living in that apartment, and I could show my Mom where everything was in the apartment....I told her I was the young woman and had lived there before....she brushed it off as unimportant, just a dream....and I've had many spiritual experiences, communications...and visions, too....but because some of them occurred during my borganized days, I've entertained doubts about some of them.....
Ravyn, I think each of us who are "connected" to the spiritual world have our own special gifts or talents where our abilities to connect are concerned....because it's so very personal an experience and so is individualized, dontcha think?
Frannie B
thanks to little toe's piquing my interest on this subject, i hafta ask it...... .
has anyone here had any personal spiritual experiences and is anyone here brave enough to describe/relate any personal spiritual experiences they've had, whether pre-borg, during being borganized or post-borg?
to be more specific, have you ever seen any angels or spirit creatures, been made aware of their presence in any way, interacted with or communicated with them, or had dream/visions...etc?
>>>The only ones who can relate or give an experience to your questions are all >>>dead unfortunately. All these ones lived at the time of jesus and before.....(posted by Gumby)
Gumby, it's pretty clear here that you in fact DID imply that no one today has or has had any of these experiences, since you say that everyone who could relate such an experience is dead..... FB
>>> Everyone on this board can tell you that regardless of how many times you >>>beg, plead, and ask, for god to give you some kind of proof he exists in the >>>manners in which you described.....are futile. ( accept for A Guest) (posted by Gumby)
Here, Gumby, you presume to speak for everyone on this board,kumquat..... FB
>>>I get what you described having sex. Breathtaking experiences are not what you asked for. You asked for voices, >>>visions, etc. (posted by Gumby)
>>To be more specific, have you ever SEEN any angels or spirit creatures, been MADE >>AWARE OF their presence in any way, INTERRACTED WITH or communicated with >>them, or had dream/visions...etc? (posted by Frannie B)
As you can plainly see, in no way, Gumby, did I exclude the matter of any spiritual experiences being breathtaking or awesome, and had no intent to denote a sexual experience in any way, ya lil horny toad, so get yer head out of yer pants, cher....nor did I limit the type of spiritual experiences to merely voices, visions, etc.....FB
>>>BTW....if seeing a ghost is a sign from god that the dead are not really >>>dead....then why does it always scare the shit out of people? Is that how god >>>works? (posted by Gumby)
I've never seen a "ghost" per se, Gumby....but I *have* seen spirit creatures....and they haven't scared the shit out of me, either.....and no....I don't think the real God "works" that way....
Frannie B
thanks to little toe's piquing my interest on this subject, i hafta ask it...... .
has anyone here had any personal spiritual experiences and is anyone here brave enough to describe/relate any personal spiritual experiences they've had, whether pre-borg, during being borganized or post-borg?
to be more specific, have you ever seen any angels or spirit creatures, been made aware of their presence in any way, interacted with or communicated with them, or had dream/visions...etc?
Gumby, sorry, guy.....I don't believe you can presume to speak for everyone....I myself have had some breathtaking experiences and I just know there are others who've had them, too....and I'm trying to get a line on that and perhaps do some comparative note taking.....
I DO respect that as your opinion, Gumby, but we'll hafta agree to disagree on it for now....
Frannie B